Dear Jim Jefferies, Can We Talk About Your Rape Jokes?

Dear Jim Jefferies,

I was in the audience during your performance in London, Ontario at Centennial Hall on Friday, December 11, 2015. I was curious to see your Freedumb tour after seeing your infamous routine on gun ownership in America on YouTube.

I will admit my bias right off the bat: had I known that your current tour presently includes a 10 minute segment of rape jokes, I probably would have stayed home. However, I missed the memo. So here we go. You made a number of jokes insinuating that women should consider it a “compliment” to be drugged and date-raped. You teased that it is “not good to rape often.” You said something to the effect that it didn’t really matter whether Bill Cosby raped 30 women or 50 women, because once he had raped over 30 his penalty would be the same, so he might as well “just go for it”.

A few times you inserted ‘disclaimers’ in which you explained that you are “just a comedian” and that your misogyny is simply a gag, a performance, implying that it’s all just for laughs. Nothing in your act, you say, should be interpreted as anything more than theatrical comedy. You stressed this repeatedly. Apparently you intend your audience to differentiate between your ‘serious’ disclaimers and your ‘innocent’ litany of rape jokes.

At another point in your show, you talked about child abuse. You made a few brief jokes about defecating on a small child who is chained to a radiator in your basement. Here again you (quickly) quipped another ‘disclaimer’, reiterating moral impunity in the name of comedy.

Comparatively speaking, you devoted much more time to jokes about raping women than to jokes about abusing children. This is interesting, isn’t it? Let’s imagine what would happen if you scaled your child abuse jokes to the scale of your rape jokes: if you stood on a stage every night and performed a 10 minute routine about molesting children, what do you suppose would become of your ‘brand’ and career? (I suppose we don’t have to imagine too hard, given the fallout and controversy from CK Louis’ monologue on child molestation at SNL back in May.)

Let’s go back to Friday night. Imagine if you inserted the word ‘child’ every time you referred to women. Imagine if you replaced all your jokes about the physical and sexual assault of women with jokes about pedophilia and child pornography? At very minimum, why would the social consequences and thresholds for acceptance be different? What are the cultural norms and precedents that make this dichotomy possible? What kind of systematic inequalities underpin this double standard?

A victim is a victim: physically overpowered, denied of their personal autonomy, robbed of choice, and injured for the pleasure of the abuser. Why should the age or gender of the victim determine the comedic viability of jokes made at their expense? What does it say about our society if jokes about raping women sells tickets but jokes about raping children can damage your career? Why differentiate one category of innocent human beings from another?

I am a die-hard supporter of free speech. I also believe it is fundamentally important for society to tolerate/protect comedy/satire that pushes the envelop of social discourse. I’m certainly not writing this letter because I think you ought to be banned or censored by some regiment of the moral thought police. And I most certainly do not suppose myself to be a moral authority. No, in fact, I will champion your right to speak freely, because I understand that it is also my right to freely disagree with you. This is why I am writing: I hope, somehow, that some of my fellow audience members who have seen the Freedumb tour will pause just long enough to question the social and cultural precedents against women that were implicitly entrenched by your performance.

Morality aside, your logic of justification for ‘comedic misogyny’ makes no sense: your segregation of ‘theatrical comedy’ from ‘real life’ is arbitrary and inconsistent. Look, I wholeheartedly agree with many of the things you said on Friday night — such as your appeal to respond to the threat of fanatical, religious terrorism (and the rhetoric of fear-mongering politicians) with “love instead of hate”. (That part wasn’t suppose to be a joke, right? That wasn’t just comedy, was it?) In fact, I could not agree more: when we perceive that our collective well-being is jeopardized by a violent minority, the systemic toxicity of fear must be thwarted by rational vigilance: collective compassion. When it comes to responding to terrorism, your call was loud and clear. But unfortunately the terror that many women suffer at the hands of their abusers found nothing but implicit reinforcement in your act.

In the real world of human hearts and minds, a night of comedy at the theatre does not result in a set of disembodied ideas that get locked away in some vacuum sealed corner of the brain. That is why humour and satire are so powerful, and so important. You obviously know this full well because you explicitly asked, challenged, and invited your audience to question their own fears and biases. You provoked them to reevaluate their assumptions on a number of issues. But unfortunately, the real world mores and precedents that sentence millions of women to live in fear were only reinforced by the glaring double standards of your act.

Please critically reconsider your approach to gender and sexuality in your future work.

Thanks for reading,

James

55 Replies to “Dear Jim Jefferies, Can We Talk About Your Rape Jokes?”

  1. Dear James,

    I would like to respond to your letter to Jim Jefferies but I must admit that I did not see his show and do not know the material in question (I have seen other material of his). I feel I can glean some info from your letter, and you can correct me if I’m wrong, but I hope it might add to this conversation.

    First a bit about myself – I am a hard-core anti-feminist and will speak out against feminism, religion or any other socially accepted ideology or dogma that plagues us, even if most people are not yet aware of it.

    To begin I wanted to question – what if the ‘rape’ jokes were not of women but of men being raped in prison, would that have been acceptable? The tone of your letter suggests quite literally that it is ‘women’ being rapped that you find offensive. You make a good point in your ‘comparatively speaking’ paragraph on switching raping women jokes with the abusing children jokes and you ask the questions, “why would the social consequences and thresholds for acceptance be different? What are the cultural norms and precedents that make this dichotomy possible? What kind of systematic inequalities underpin this double standard? These are good question and I would like to suggest that this might be precisely why Jim Jeffries has selected this material. This is his way of ‘pushing the envelope’ as you mention later in your letter – his creative license.

    I grew up in this society and I was indoctrinated with a feminist agenda, as we all have been. Now I see things clearly and it has been statistically proven that women are just as violent and abusive as men (men are bigger and stronger and therefore more likely to cause injury, but this does not excuse the violent actions of women) and far more violent and abusive to children than are men, with one possible exemption of sexual abuse (sexual abuse is most common between live-in boyfriends and non-biological offspring). We know from statistics that men are raped in prison (in developed countries) and in general in non-developed countries to a far greater extent than are women. We know that women are much more likely to kill their own children than are the fathers of those children, but all I have just said here will be strongly disputed by feminist because it does not fit with the socially accepted narrative that men are violent brutes and women are innocent angels. From reading your letter it is my belief that you have been indoctrinated into this all-pervasive feminist ideology and I’m glad to hear to question the ‘justification of comedic misogyny’. Let’s go one step further and question our socially accepted ‘comedic misandry’ too. I know Jim Jefferies is a controversial act and highly offensive to many people. But I’m sure you would agree that a ‘politically correct’ comedy routine would not be funny at all. In order to be able to laugh at material such as this, one need to reflect on the many things that people do laugh at every day – on public radio and television – and these are things that I personally find highly offensive. I’m talking about a systemic abuse of men and boys. I wonder if the material of Jim Jeffries would be funny if we were all painfully aware of how the opposite is true? Maybe without one we would not have the other? I believe that if we were all as offended by the abuse of men and boys (including rape) as we are by the abuse of women and girls, then his jokes would only be offensive and not be funny at all.

    I think your sentences at the end are great; “You provoke them (the audience) to reevaluate their assumptions on a number of issues”. Very true, and don’t forget, this audience includes you. Then you add, “But unfortunately, the real world mores and precedents that sentence millions of women to live in fear were only reinforced by the glaring double standards of your act”. Of which ‘real world’ are you speaking? While it is true that millions of women are sentenced to live in fear, millions of men and children (boys and girls) do as well. If men are not directly abused by women, then they are abused by the government sanctioned proxies like the family courts and laws biased against men and boys. You wrote, “the systemic toxicity of fear must be thwarted by rational vigilance: collective compassion”, and I couldn’t agree more. But one needs to understand that we ‘fight the enemy we know’, and it is government, industry and media that is ever feeding us with ready-made enemies and never letting us see the big picture. This is why I am on the crusade to educate as many people as I can.

    The perpetual messages from the feminist camp have permitted our lives, and i know this because I was once like you. The media perpetuates this message constantly, and to the exclusion of all other information regardless of how rational or accurate that information might be. We can only play the cards we are dealt. The world is a fucked up place because it is run by fucked up people. The internet is the great equalizer and enemy of the tyrants who would seek to control us. It’s right to be offended, and I agree with your sentiments, but making the world a just and loving place is a big job and in a strange, roundabout way the words of Jim Jeffferies are a very small part of that.

    Wolf Moehrle

    1. Wow. You literally took one argument about a man talking about raping women, where the argument was to talk about how serious a situation that is.

      And went all Shannon like “what about me?! I am a man?! And I’m feeling cold and alone! Well I’m not to proud, to cry out loud that this argument should be about me?!?!?!”

      Pick your fights bro.

      And yes, it would be beyond disgusting if he were talking about raping an unconscious man. That is filth.
      Rape is rape. This specific guy was making jokes about men being raped too, so perhaps you could take this argument out on him, rather than someone on the internet who wrote a response to him about raping women.

      Thanks.

    2. I watched Jim Jefferies on TV, and I was first unimpressed by his political ideology but then I started to notice sonething interesting about how all his parts relate. Jim Jefferies is calling out the female psychopath, and possibly the motherly one, and he hates guns because it could have been him that stormed the school in rage, and if it was a musket he would have calmed down.

    3. Hey Wolf, let me be honest straight off the bat and say I completely disagree with you about feminism. I could go point for point with you on your arguments. We could both share stats, question each others sources and become more entrenched in our views. But you know what, I’m not sure we’d get anywhere.

      Can I ask you a question though – Are you happy? And further to that what does happiness mean to you? You say in your comment that the world is a fucked up place? What does an unfucked up world look like to you? And finally, what are you scared of? Why do you feel the need to be anti-feminist? What part of your self do you feel is under attack? What are you protecting? I believe if you really want to change the world, whether or not you believe in feminism, the first thing to do is to look inside yourself at the soft broken parts, the unsure bits, the fear, the tender places of your heart and ask – what’s really going on in here? You sound like a really well meaning person and I’m happy to chat with you any time you like, just send me an email at jazzuakiandrews@gmail.com
      We can argue about feminism if you like. Personally I think you’ve made a mistake along the way and found yourself on the wrong side on this one my friend.

  2. People are too fucking up tight, learn to understand it’s a fucking joke. You’re the 1% of society that is so fucking obnoxious, people like Jim Jefferies have to be careful with their jokes. It’s stand up. Jokes are jokes. Fair game to say literally anything you want, if people are laughing, you win. Everyone was laughing except you.

      1. Listen, who cares whether or not a guy makes a damn joke. People have dark humor, you can’t get offended over everything that you hear. In his Netflix show, he clearly stated it was all to be interpreted, As. A. Joke. I understand that it may offend you, but as a man, I don’t see how it would’ve offended you as much as it did. Seeing how you can voice your opinion, and I do respect it. In all respect though sir, I, as a woman, can understand the difference between someone literally saying rape is okay, to a good ol’ dark humor comedy bit. In all due respect, get over yourself.
        -Samantha

        1. I don’t think there’s any disagreement here that Jeffries’ jokes are intended as jokes.

          But if Jeffries’ jokes had been about babies or children, would they still be funny to you?

          1. The fact you ask if we changed the subject of the jokes if the person would still be offended shows how arbitrary this all is. The culture has a few sacred cows currently. You happen to have bought into women being one of these sacred cows, pun not intended. Another amusing example is the logic pretzel the left contorts itself into when forced to play favorites between its sacred cows as you see when they are required to concoct a rationalization for Islam’s abhorrent treatment of gays or women. The left’s bizarre defense of Islam would make a theologian who wrestled with the problem of evil proud.

          2. If the rights, safety, and equal opportunity of literally half the human population is a ‘sacred cow’, then sure, I think that’s a pretty worthy sacred cow.

        2. his hearts in the right place, it’s dark comedy. Stop being so offended , there are a lot of real things to get offended about. You didn’t get him it’s ok but maybe you should stick to more mild comedy.

        3. Exactly! Rape jokes are meant to be jokes that are hilarious. What’s so hard to understand people? How many times do I have to explain this??
          Real rape = real bad.
          Joke rape = hilarious.
          Simple.
          Keep fighting the good fight sister!

    1. You see, comedy isn’t “real life” and therefore nothing that happens in a stand-up set could ever have an actual impact on real people. Never mind that Jeff is a real person behind the really real jokes he’s coming up with and that those words actually do reflect real world opinions, beliefs, prejudices and discrimination that really do affect really real people from marginalized groups that have to deal with that stuff on a daily basis – so what! It’s “comedy”. Nothing is “real” on “the stage”. You can simply say to them: If you take “comedy” to heart, you’re taking it “too seriously” and probably just need to stop watching for awhile……
      … and go out into the “real world” where they can experience the exact same type of discrimination and prejudice from the show.

      You conveniently ignore that there is no genuine respite for marginalized people when it comes to encountering bigotry, not even through a supposed entertainment medium.

      Using this tactic, you’re also subtly characterizing ’’comedy” as an autonomous being – it’s not people choosing to be offensive, it’s “comedy”, thus allowing you to further shirk responsibility.

  3. I completely agree. I just watched his show on Netflix, expecting political satire, but the first few minutes made me feel a little sick to my stomach. I don’t think Mr. Jefferies meant to do it, but he reinforces so many misconceptions about rape in that bit (it’s not ‘real’ rape because he only fingered them, they should take it as a compliment, etc.), and I do think that that is a dangerous mindset to perpetuate. I absolutely believe free speech should come without terms and conditions, but I also believe in thinking before you speak, and being aware of the impact and gravity of your words.

    1. Thank you for writing this, James! I first saw Jim Jefferies on Conan and I liked the bit he did about gun control in the United States so I wanted to check out his special “Bare,” but I could barely get through 10 minutes without being completely turned off by the uncomfortable level of misogyny he was dishing out. And so, I am so appreciative of people like you speaking out against it and calling Jefferies out for the potential damage this type of “comedy” can inflict. Thank you again for your thoughtful post.

      1. Misogyny.

        The go to word for the perpetually offended when all they really mean is:-

        Women are special, no-one should make jokes about them.

        You sound like a feminist all right.

    2. When he says that it wasn’t “real” rape because it was only drugging/fingering, he gets laughs, because it’s an absurd concept and the audience knows it is. He’s not perpetuating ignorance any more than Archie Bunker was perpetuating ignorance when he talked about colored people. He’s intentionally playing the buffoon.

  4. The jokes/stories were quite funny – e.g. Jefferies painted a bizarre picture of coming around to find out you’d been raped by good ol’ Bill Cosby, and your possible reactions to that. The humour is in the situation he invented, it’s not at the expense of actual rape victims. But that makes no difference to our wannabe moral guardians. For them rape is only for them to understand and interpret.
    See, here’s the thing. If someone makes edgy jokes about torturing or killing people there is no outcry from those looking to educate us as to what is right and wrong. No, the pontificating is always limited to rape, or more specifically men raping women. Prison rape jokes generate no outrage. Weird eh?
    Monty Python’s Black Knight got off lightly. At least he wasn’t raped!
    Oh wait, I’m so offended. That sketch makes fun of amputees.

    1. I imagine that if 1 in 5 people had experienced violent bodily dismemberment (or attempts there at) in their lives, there would likely be a significant difference in our collective attitudes towards the Black Knight sketch. Maybe?

  5. Is the original author aware Jim was abused as a child himself ?

    Neither for or against the original document, just wondered if it would change his questioning ?

  6. So if I’m not mistaken, had Jeffries’ routine involved an equal amount of jokes about peadophilia as about the rape of adults then you would have had no cause to write this letter? In desegregating his routine, you seem far more offended by the recipe than by the ingredients (cause, free speech). Boohoo, mate.
    All victims are victims and there should be no hierarchy of suffering or victimhood – obviously. But you talk about societal mores and what not. People are uncomfortable with and offended by all manner of topics – be it holocaust denialism, necrophilia or whatever. But you’re right, jokes about child abuse are particularly unpalatable; hence, Jeffries’ (career) decision to spend less time on such jokes…
    Why is that the case? I have no idea. Perhaps children represent the height of vulnerability and defencelessness. I don’t know though.
    At any rate, I really don’t understand your point. You seem to want to defend free speech while, contradictorily, couching disproval and offence about aspects of a comedy act with arguments about not enough of the comedian’s speech being used to express jokes on a particular topic. Confusing…

    1. In the spirit of Voltaire, ‘I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.’

      This doesn’t seem to be ‘confusing’ to me all — it seems like a principle foundation of classical liberal democracy.

      Jeffries used his freedom of speech to say something. I used my freedom of speech to say that I disagree. It is not contradictory at all say I am ardent defender of his right to say what he wants while simultaneously disagreeing with what he says. That’s what living in a free society is all about.

  7. Jim did actually at one point tell jokes about sexually abused children. Funny enough the subject of the jokes were him because he was badly sexually abused as a child.
    Unlike you he’s able to find the humor in it because he’s a better, stronger person who doesn’t let something bad define his life. He turns his weaknesses into strengths. He’s not a victim and doesn’t suffer from male guilt like you.

  8. Jim Jefferies works in shock humour. Shock humour relies on playing with what we find offensive and do not agree with. Jim Jefferies’ rape jokes, like Louis CK’s child rape jokes, rely on us finding these things to not be okay. If we think the behaviour is acceptable, the joke does not work. If someone laughs at a rape joke, it is not because they agree with the idea.

    1. I don’t get it. Are you saying fingering an unconscious girl is totally rapey therefore hearing someone say the opposite is shockingly hilarious?
      Where’s the funny? Maybe you had to be there for the full experience? Did he make a funny face while telling the joke? Or maybe he pantomimed fingering an unconscious girl? Yeah, I agree. That would have been hilarious.

  9. It’s not up to you to decide what is funny and what isn’t. Gallows humour is a well known coping mechanism when you see the horrible shit that happens in the world. A comedian tells jokes, if you take it seriously you’re missing the point.

  10. People have dark humours— get over it. And stop voicing all your stupid opinions and find a nice vanilla humoured comedian to watch. Not that he or anyone else actually gives a fuck about your opinion. Social justice warriors are everywhere, Gaaaawd!

  11. As slightly said before, I guarantee this ‘letter’ wouldn’t have been written if the routine was about men being raped, as apposed to women… People – particularly feminist – are so sensitive about their genders, that a large part of the time, they forget that the disgusting part of the thing is the rape. The fact that you’ve based so much of this letter about women and not rape, makes me feel like you’ve just used it as an excuse to label men as brutes who itemise women and use them as sex toys. It’s fucking infuriating. If you’re going to write a letter, use proper, valid points instead of using shit to back up your arguments.

  12. Dear Mr. Shelley

    During the modern ages, we have many problems. Raping is not funny. Racism is not funny. Untill you make them funny. Who is one to say what we can and can not say? Rape, racism, bullying and other horrible things have occurred since the dawn of times and they shall exist till the end of humanity, or another advanced life form. By making these things a “taboo” you are only hurting your cause. I would reconsider your comments before having these accusations. To accept and to tolerate are a different thing. You good sir have still a lot of learning to do.

  13. I saw him last night in Seattle. He got pretty drunk onstage, viciously heckled a couple of women in the audience, and then made a hilarious joke about the audience having an orgy. Since there were more men than women, he said, it would be fine – that’s why they have three holes. And if that wasn’t enough, the men could cut more. A few women walked out. He came off as a stereotypical Aussie guy – sexist and alcoholic. No wonder the mother of your child dumped you, cunt.

  14. How about this! If you’re into stand up, you go and enjoy it for what it is!? I for one know, that if I am going to see one of the best stand up comedians in the show biz right now (which Jim is) I do my research on him. I find out what his comedy is all about! If I was paying in excess of 80 dollars for my ticket to a comedy show, I’m pretty sure I have introduced myself to this artists sense of humor. So honestly go get bent, if you payed top dollar to see a great and halarious human being perform, and then you decided to be offended by the material.
    Last but not least, in today’s politically correct, over the top, butt hurt world…people like myself and many others, find live comedy a place to be able to go to and be free. A place where everything said doesn’t offend at least one person. People need to get over their self entitlement, and get back to loving the world, get back to just striaght loving each other. As soon as we as a whole, can start just being free on all levels, then life will start reconforming back to a place where the world we live in, is a world that is REAL!!

  15. My friends thought his Freedumb show would be great to watch for a laugh.
    I sat through so many repulsive mysogonistic jokes whilst everyone else laughed. I felt repulsed, I had to get out of the room. What’s wrong with people?
    At one point he made a joke about his pregnant gf after the birth of their child – “her c*** would be so f****d up that I would just jizz on her tits instead”. People laugh but you can always tell there’s an underlying truth to it.
    It’s talk like his that has literally brought me to questioning suicide.
    If all I’m worth as a woman is what somebody can do to/with me, then what’s the point? This is the thought pattern his “comedy” reinforces within me.

    1. You’re weak. There should be absolutely no boundaries to comedy. I made this point on my blog, but I’m gonna say it here too. If something offends you, people don’t need to dance around the topic when they’re in your company.

  16. A question to all the people saying “I’m sick of political correctness. Let’s just go back to being free to do and say what we want. Let’s have freedom.”

    Do you honestly not see that your ‘freedom’ to minimise, laugh at, dismiss and re-inforce the actual real suffering of countless other human beings is the cause of these people experiencing a great-deal of not-freedom.

    Your freedom to laugh at a rape joke helps to normalise and enable rape-culture. This directly curtails the freedom of millions of women to feel and be safe in their daily lives.

    I’m a massive comedy nerd. I listen to and watch stand up constantly. I even love dark and shocking comedy. But you know what? there’s plenty of darkness in ourselves, plenty of horror and humour in the universal human predicament. We don’t need to laugh at the expense of rape victims. It’s not a ‘sacred cow’. It’s just basic human decency.

    1. Thank you, so much, that has made me feel better. I’ve just watched his Netflix show and it was like playing rape experience recall Bingo (there you go Jeffries fans, there’s a joke about rape for you!). I’ve come here to check-.once again- if my opinion is out of line or twisted, after my companion said to me ‘maybe you’re sensitive because of your experience’. If only it were my experience alone that had been brought to mind, and not those of friends, family, acquaintances, clients… As you say, millions of women. If only his routine didn’t recall uncomfortable moments with the many, many folks who don’t really think that violent abuse and degradation of women is wrong, more that it is a weird combination of imaginary, unimaginable and biologically inevitable. If only my not-sooo-very-distant youth had been free from misogyny as standard, in comedy and in life.
      And no, I’m not happy with his jokes about raping men either. Until rape is being properly socially rejected and legally sanctioned, it is not going to be the same as joking about murder. People don’t seem to get this, that’s OK, but shouting at rape survivors to get over it, even if the people shouting have also experienced rape, is not. Again, thank you for your voice and to all the other voices here supporting decency, and to James Shelley.

      1. Anna, would you have the same reaction to Jefferies’ stories about himself being molested by his Scout Master as a child? He likened it to “sitting in the front row at Sea World”. Even praised his father for making a joke about how he “earned all those Scout badges” when he found out.

        1. It’s his experience to make comedy out of.
          He’s hardly advocating it.

          He might walk on the brutal side of comedy, but if he, a white man, was talking to an audience of not-that-subtly-minded KKK memberswho hung on his word and image, making jokes at length about attacking ethnic minority people would be distasteful at best.
          That is a more accurate comparison.

          Also:
          https://www.thedailybeast.com/jim-jefferies-admits-he-was-ignorant-about-sexual-harassment-before-harvey-weinstein

  17. Has anyone even begun to think about how Jim’s “distasteful” jokes actually highlight, throw into relief even, the dark side of humanity and make us realise “Oh my word, I’m laughing, but he’s so right! This is wrong! This is all wrong!”

    I’m a woman. I’m a feminist. And by this I mean I want equal rights for ALL of us, not just women.

    I want men to feel they’re able to talk about their emotions, laugh and cry when they need to, take parental leave if they want to, have equal rights to child custody and maintenance payments when necessary and most of all to be able to just BE, so that they don’t feel like they have to work 7 days a week 365 days a year to provide for their family, just like some of us lucky women get to feel. Men are still faced with the IMMENSE pressure of being “the main bread winner” that many women aren’t.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’ve fallen victim to misogyny many times in my life and have my woes to deal with just because I’m a woman, but hating men and each other never helps. It divides us. We NEED to work together to end the age old institution of the Patriarchy. And I really think Jim Jeffries is on the same page in this fight.

    1. I missed the bit where anyone said they hated men. I believe the op hates rape jokes.
      I think we all agree rape is wrong but the question is, is it okay to mock someone’s traumatic experience in public? As someone mentioned, there are many issues that are considered taboo to some people.
      I’m Australian too and have a very sarcastic dark sense of humour sometimes. Half of the time I’m making fun of myself but not many topics are off limit to me.
      Where I’m different is, that I’m not a celebrity doing public shows. I can pick and choose my audience. When I’m around elderly people and children, I never drop the f bomb or the c bomb. I don’t make disabled jokes in front of disabled people. I don’t make Holocaust jokes in front of my Jewish friends (unless they do first), etc. Would you go into an elderly nursing home and shout “okay, who’s up for dying next?”. It might be funny to your friend but I’m pretty sure a lot of the residents wouldn’t be so amused. I have a couple of friends where we go really dark only in each others company and we both know it’s all a joke and just letting off steam. It’s pretty easy for me. I call it respecting other people.
      With Jim Jeffries, he has no idea who’s in his audience so says whatever he wants, which is fine. But you can’t say that everyone that paid that ticket should think every joke is funny, even if it’s mocking them. There’s this ridiculous belief that we should all laugh at every joke or we ‘don’t have a sense of humour’. “I reckon it’s funny, you should, too”. That’s bullshit. Besides the offensive ones, some jokes are just bad , as in not funny, to anyone. If I don’t laugh at those, am I wrong too?
      My little boys think poo and fart jokes are hilarious right now. I laugh along because they’re so silly but it’s not something that is an intelligent, witty joke to me.
      I’ve heard a bit of Jim Jeffries comedy and I thought he was funny and before this article, I thought to myself that I would watch him again. I don’t know about paying $80 but would watch him again on tv.
      But now I know that rape humour is his thing, I won’t be watching him for my own personal reasons. My mother was drugged and raped in 1965 and I was conceived from that. He disappeared without trace after the rape so he doesn’t even know he’s a father. She had to give me up for adoption. That act fucked up two people’s lives. I didn’t have a horrific childhood but we both were affected by it. Luckily I found her just before I turned 50 which is how I found out the story of my conception. Also, I was brutally raped years ago and am still physically affected by the scars today.
      So, if I went to his show not knowing there was going to be so many rape jokes, especially about drugging, I’m not sure what my experience would have been like. I’m a pretty tough person and probably wouldn’t cry or walk out, but it would probably make me feel physically sick and think everybody just doesn’t care.
      I’m not being a victim here and asking for special treatment but if you tell me ‘it’s just a joke, get over it’, no, you can go and fuck yourself and drug yourself while you’re at it.

    2. This is just the thing. Jim says these things ironically, specifically to speak the injustice. It has a visceral impact that lectures and nagging can not. We laugh in spite of ourselves, genuinely feeling how wrong it is. It might be the case that some enlightened souls can’t make use of this reminder, but I’d hazard a guess that they aren’t spending their time lecturing and nagging a guy like Jim Jefferies.

  18. I can’t believe so many people are upset at J.J.’s cringe worthy and ironically dry humor. As it is in real life, ironic statements are always meant to imply exactly the opposite of what is actually being said… anyone who doesn’t undertand that probably doesn’t speak English as a native language… or maybe they’re just somewhere along the spectrum of Rainman…. ;)

  19. If you don’t like him don’t go but that said just because he jokes about it does that make him bad? Bill Cosby never joked about it, was always a clean comedian yet look what he allegedly did. If your easily offended stay home, and let the rest of us enjoy life and turn away when we don’t rather than trying to censor it.

  20. Ffs man, comedy is the last bastion of being able to make light of the darkness of life (a quality that is pyschologically beneficial to those in high stress jobs – soldiers etc) how about you take your offense and keep it to yourself. Id never rape anyone but im allowed to laugh at a rape JOKE. Just because its fashionable to be offended, doesnt mean its right or that you have to air it. So in summary, if you take life too seriously, youll never get out alive. Remove the tree limb from your rectum and enjoy life a little 😉

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